25 Things Fat People Shouldn't Do:


25 Things Fat People Shouldn't Do is an unabashed middle finger to the preposterous idea that any human who weighs more than the status quo does not deserve to live a full and well rounded (ahem) life. The list of 25 is composed word for word from direct lists of sheer assholery found on the internet. These range from the absurd to the profoundly shameful, and I will be disproving this offensive notion with style. Feel free to join in on the fun, and if you do, link at the bottom so I can share. May the Chub Club live long and prosper!

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The List:

Ride a scooter
Jump in an elevator
Be straight
Roll down a hill
Sit on anything plastic
Live.


80 comments

  1. That's bullshit that fat people aren't "allowed" to shimmy. Shimmying is fun! Shimmy for all!!

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    1. I would even say that fat people shimmy better, because guess what: we have tits. Shimmy away!

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    2. The shimmy is an essential part of bellydancing, which actually looks sexier when you've got something to shimmy with.

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    3. Oddly enough, my mom taught me to shimmy when I was really young, and I always said I didn't like to shimmy because my boobs weren't big enough. Well, they certainly are now, and I still shimmy.

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    4. Hello, I am an artist, and a bit over weight myself...thankfully my husband perceives me as beautiful and I live a full and faith filled life. There are a number of beautiful women on your sight that I would like to draw with pencil.... realistically of course. I would give the original to the 'model'.

      This would serve me as figure drawing studies. I would draw them from their pic. And of couse at no cost to the model...perhaps shipping...I'm not sure.

      If you would like to discuss this further...contact me at art4lifedlf@yahoo.com.

      Best Regards,
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    5. Hah.
      Lots of belly dancers are overweight or fat, and they shimmy like hell.

      Hell, I am overweight.
      And I am a belly dancer.
      (Ok, I am a belly dancing student, but still.)
      And I DO shimmy.

      LOL

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  2. How dumb it is to say "Fat people are not allowed to run"?

    By the way: you're awesome. Fuck yeah. World really needs more people like you!

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    1. The whole concept of telling someone else what they can or cannot do it totally fucked. To the core:)

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  3. Would you mind if I copied this list and idea and did it on my blog too. I may have pictures of some of these things...

    Stephanie
    www.bassability.blogspot.com

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    1. PLEASE DO! Link it back to me each time and we'll flip off the world together!!!!

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  4. mean people really suck. there should be a list for them-- "things mean people shouldn't do." #1) post rules for other people on the internet.

    i always try to remind myself that people are often mean because they hate themselves and don't know how to fix it, which is a bit sad. i look forward to reading more as you respond to this list.

    cheers

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    1. I was writing my reply and then stopped and read yours and, well, you said everything that was floating around in my head. It makes me sad that people hate others and themselves...

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    2. It really is. It's weird, because I totally understand where they are coming from... and I feel empathy for them most of the time. Y'know? They are just a victim of their circumstances and that makes me sad. Usually its the fact that adults hinder children's growth because of their own bad decisions. SO not fair.

      On the flip side, I have no problem holding grown ass adults responsible for their actions. You are a fucking adult, and I'm really sorry so and so hated you and they were addicted to whatever and this happened and that happened etc... but that does NOT give you the right to hurt others. Ever. Buck up asshole, and change your life. Only you can do it for yourself.

      Ya feel me?

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  5. These are all absolutely appalling!!! I can't believe it. So rude and ignorant.

    You are beautiful and can do whatever you want!! =) Screw those people!!!

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  6. i genuinely don't even understand this. Like that list is awful. What is wrong with people?
    Those aren't even things I would ever consider wrong for a fat (me) person to do.
    Things like drive and be straight and ride a bike and go to the movies. Like honestly. How does that have any correlation to fat people. I would understand (yet still be outraged offended and royally pissed off) if the list said things only like wearing tight clothing, eating large take out food meals, wearing a bikini and going to the beach, and that's all I can think of because those are the only things I tend to feel self conscious about.
    BUT SERIOUSLY. I generally don't understand why people would write drive. How does that even make sense? Or go to the movies? It's a freaking dark cinema in which we are there to watch a movie. How how how would you even notice me if you were even watching the movie which fyi is the reason why you bought the ticket you stupid moron.
    And things like ride a bike and run. If you're so repulsed by fat people, then you would obviously think it's crucial for them to lose weight and is exercising not the way to do that. WHERE IS THE LOGIC PEOPLE?!?!?!?

    Anyway, I'm done with my rant. You're lovely and a constant inspiration!!
    XO Samantha

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  7. I am so in for the virtual middle finger to all the haters out there.

    Thank you for, once again, offering a platform for change and acceptance.

    ~Meg
    milesfromordinary.com

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  8. I can't whaaaattt??? Watch ME!!! Count me in! I'm fed up with this stupidity and ignorance!

    I agree with Meg above... thanks Jes for offering a platform for change and acceptance....way, way overdo!

    ~SimplyyMayra
    simplyymayra.com

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  9. Ride a scooter? I don't even...although, more inspiration for me to get a scooter to zoom my fat ass around town on.

    Have literally JUST found your blog and already adore it. Thank you for being you.

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  10. This is brilliant! I'm so looking forward to seeing your posts!

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  11. I want to ditch work and go to the park now to go on the swings! I used to love going on the swings when I was younger - we'd have competitions to see who could go the highest and part of me wanted to be able to swing right over the top!

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  12. To be fair, I don't like sitting on plastic either. I end up sweating like a pig and leaving an ass print on it when I get up. lol It's embarrassing really. Great list though. thanks for posting. I'm sick of the fat phobia in this world, esp. in the USA and how women are made to feel guilty about eating.

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    1. i hate sweaty asses in general:) thanks for commenting... i love it when men read my blog! I had no idea:)

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  13. Some of these things are absolutely ridiculous. Drive? Eat in public? Be straight? Where do people get these ideas from? I definitely want to join in on this. It might be slow going, and I may not cross everything off the list, but you have my support.

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  14. no freakin' way! people are seriously insane... i'm surprised "breathe" didn't make onto that list w/ everything on there but i absolutely love your positive outlook in poking fun at it! and i absolutely love your painting of yourself, you are beautiful and made a beautiful piece of art!!
    http://dusanabotswana.com/

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  15. I totally want to jump on board and some of these! I'm not vastly overweight, but I have been called fatass more times than I count in my young life.

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  16. I think its interesting that Marilyn Monroe was a size 12/14, which is usually the upper limit on clothing "normal" sizes, although its also the overall "average " healthy size of women's (americans? ) bodies. anyway, i totally agree with your list- and applaud your efforts to normalize all shapes and sizes, but i need to relate that I was extremely uncomfortable on a recent cross country flight when I had to try to squeeze into just one of the two seats we paid for with my 8 year old because the man next to us was literally taking up more than half of the seat that was supposed to be mine, and i wasnt feeling snuggly with this sweaty stranger dude. I felt totally trapped - as they had re-routed us and there were no extra seats on the plane to move him or us to, and if I had complained I felt like it would have made this giant fella "feel bad" . I probably wont fly again anytime soon because of this. In this case i do think that extremely overweight people ought to have to purchase an additional seat.

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    1. I don't think anyone likes being crowded on an already claustrophobic flight. Thats a really tricky situation because if you take fatphobia away, you're still stuck with the logistics of space. It would be interesting to know what the median size is that all airplane seats are made for. As people become more and more overweight, should they increase it? Or should they be forced to buy two? But how do you determine who should buy two? Not everyone is going to want to pay double. So do you do it based on weight? But not every one is proportional... so tall people and short people of the same weight would take up a different amount of horizontal space... its tricky.

      I'm flying to utah on a week or so and I am size 18 and considered "obese". I am certainly not getting two seats, and I am taking pictures to prove it. I don't need two seats, so how would they work THAT? How do you not make it a punishment, but rather a practicality? Hard questions.

      If I were you, I would have politely asked to have been moved so I could enjoy my flight, and then still kept my faith in flying:)

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    2. I'm someone who tends to "smush" myself up in tight situation, crowded buses, flights, whatever it maybe. But on the flip side, I've sat next to thin people who have no problem pushing their plane seat all the way back where they are literally laying on my legs, or that stretch their legs side ways to full capacity and make me uncomfortable all while I'm busy sitting in an uncomfortable position in an attempt to NOT make them uncomfortable. The whole charging for two seats is just another money making scam for the airlines. I recently read an article by The Economist that was saying that the cost of seats should be based upon weight, a person that weighs 160 would be charged half of what some weighing 260. It's utterly ridiculous even if you are not talking about those who are considered obese, since people are clearly going to weigh different amounts just based upon gender, height, and body shape.
      http://cherizangelandstyleluvin.blogspot.com/

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    3. So, my boyfriend made a suggestion. Plane flights are based on mass and weight. They calculate the weight of the passengers and their bags, and then use that to calculate fuel and space needs.

      Would you be more willing to pay by the pound? A 100lb person would pay half the price a 200lb person would, but it isn't based on some ambiguous "median".

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    4. I am blessed to be both fat AND tall. The person who leans back in the seat in front of me has about negative one half inch of space before painfully crushing my knees. I try to book my seat strategically (I go for a window seat in a row where the aisle seat is already booked, and pray that the middle seat stays empty), get on the plane near the front of the general boarding line so I can do my ridiculous breath-holding-out seatbelt buckling dance before my neighbours arrive, and I manage not to spill past the armrest. Barely. I would object to weight-based airfares because, well, at 350lbs, it would probably be cheaper for me to pay for (and then not bother to use) an additional seat. Also, a weight-based airfare would rightly include the wieght of one's luggage, allowing the heavier individuals to compensate by packing light. By the same token, my 6'6.5" little brother (weighing 240lbs, mostly skin and bones) is forced to either take a seat in the emergency exit row or pay extra to sit in first class if he doesn't want his kneecaps forcibly crushed by the mere existance of the seat in front of him. I bet you'd be hearing a lot of complaints from the silently marginalized tall people of the world if weight-based airfares became a reality.

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    5. I worked for several airlines and they would never do weight based tickets...
      1. You would have to buy your ticket at the airport. That would mean more employees and longer lines.
      2. Buying new special equipment to weigh people and new computer software to calculate the fares.
      3. The issue of privacy yes the weight could only show to the agent but when they tell you a ticket price and people around can figure out your weight I'm not sure that would go over well.

      It's just too much money for airlines to do it that way.

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    6. I worked for several airlines and they would never do weight based tickets...
      1. You would have to buy your ticket at the airport. That would mean more employees and longer lines.
      2. Buying new special equipment to weigh people and new computer software to calculate the fares.
      3. The issue of privacy yes the weight could only show to the agent but when they tell you a ticket price and people around can figure out your weight I'm not sure that would go over well.

      It's just too much money for airlines to do it that way.

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  17. OMG - the "Chub Club". Love it! I'm there with you, sister! Thanks for sharing this ridiculously jacked-up list - I'll be attempting several of these very soon! :)

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  18. Your entire blog is fantastic! I'm new and am loving every minute I spend on your blog. This list reminds me of an experience I had the other day at work. I have a new job so I'm still getting comfortable with all the staff etc (I work as a photographer/media person for Deaf Children's Society of BC which has a preschool program for deaf children - it's amazing and I love everything about the job.... other than certain things that certain staff people say). I've kinda been living in an anti-oppressive & fat positive queer bubble for over a year, being entirely self employed and this is my first job with other deaf people, meaning - I can understand everything everyone is talking about for once.

    Anyway, long story short, it has been a mixed blessing - being able to understand everything my co-workers are saying. The things people talk about just really get to me and I feel unsafe bringing up how these things are fucked up. Partly because I'm new, and it's always at the most inappropriate time, such as in front of the kids! The other day during lunch break with the kids & teachers, one of the teachers pointed out that an teacher assistant from a different class was wearing stripes. I didn't understand why she was bringing it up. I asked if it was because she was an ASL interpreter (didn't know who she was - and interpreters are not supposed to wear distracting clothes as it can be hard on the student's eyes after a while) and she responded that no, it's because she's fat. Fat people can't wear stripes. It makes them look bigger! She said it in a really mean way and I just was dumbstruck (and really fucking angry). I also didn't know how to respond and then lunch was over and we had to go back to class.

    I just don't understand why people feel as if they have the right to decide what people should wear. It's just so incredibly ridiculous and really fucking rude. Why the hell does she even care? It has nothing to do with her. ALSO, she's a preschool teacher, she should be a role model and not teaching the kids to be bullies! Sigh. I really have to think about how to quickly react to situations like that and also maybe suggest a meeting later on to discuss these things because it's just so wrong.

    Sorry for the rant! It just has been really bugging me. So glad to find your blog, it's great. Definitely following. :)

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  19. Hey Jes!

    First let me say that I LOVE your blog! I will definitely be exploring it in much further detail.
    Secondly, I have started a list of my own at Big Girls Won't, and have linked back to yours!
    http://biggirlswont.wordpress.com
    Feel free to stop by- I would love to swap notes with you sometime (and recipes!)
    Thanks!
    D.

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  20. Haha, #8 is actually really something I can't do, but I can be queer & fat instead. And in addition to that I can (#26) give zero fucks about some stupid lists/opinions from bigoted, narrow minded people. Done!

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  21. I've got the plastic chair soon!

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  22. I think you can cross off live as a job well done; even if we just judge by your photos from this list you are clearly living life to the fullest. Also I've always been told that 'girls like me' shouldn't wear red, particularly in photographs. 90% of my ironic t-shirts? The brightest, most obnoxious shades of red I could find. My own subtle finger to the world. Also my fav shirts to wear lol

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  23. LOL! Who wrote this! Love the word "assholery" gonna use that in the future! Just found your site, I am loving it! I am a size 14-16, so flipping tired of feeling like a failure because of what everyone else thinks a woman should look like! You have lit a new fire under me! And I am already a pyro, so this is gonna catch on quick! THANK YOU!!!!

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  24. I can't believe I have only just found this blog, so forgive me for being super late, but your blog is fucking fabulous. Thank you for putting out there everything that I struggle with every day and doing it in such style. You inspire me to love my awesome size 14 body. Seriously, thank you.

    Also, would like to mention that I just signed up for a 5K run. And I've rolled down many a hill...and survived. Cross off two!!

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  25. Surprisingly enough, even with my un-even boobs and tummy flab, I look drop-dead-gorgeous in a bikini. I do not like wearing them, though, and that has nothing to do with my size, just more my personal sense of style.

    A couple of summers ago, I wore a magenta and purple bikini to the river and got invited to a near-by barbecue that hosted barbies and ken-dolls. Those skinny girls sat there and talked with me, ate with me, and even complimented me on my bad-assery. None of them were wearing bikinis and they were all tiny little things. My boyfriend at the time was so jealous that all these chiseled men wanted a piece of me. Heh. It was a pretty damn good day.

    That's out of the way.

    What the blue fuck?! I want to say that I cannot believe that something like this list exists, but this IS the internet. What the hell, people. Come on. Fat people in America far out-number the skinny people at this point. Get the fuck over it.

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  26. Well, I'm not going to jump in an elevator, no way, because that's just too scary and will make me throw up. I hate elevators. Otherwise I'm having fun reading this blog.

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  27. Ok glitter is appropriate in some cases...but I recently ranted about it. http://born2lbfat.com/?p=382

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  28. I hope you don't mind, but I am reposting this list on my blog, and crossing as many things off the list as I can! I won't be driving anytime soon, but that has nothing to do with size, and as for the bikini, I really doubt that will happen either. Not quite THAT brave yet. Someday, maybe even soon...

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  29. Love this! BTW, call me Mariah (though I don't want to sign in to my Google account bcz reasons).
    This blog post inspired me all to bits! I reposted this to my 43 Things (goal-site) account, with some personal ranting and a few changes.
    "Drive" became "Ride in a shopping cart".
    "Ride a scooter" is now "Ride a skateboard".
    "Roll down a hill" is now "climb a tree".
    "Run" is now "Do gymnastics". (like tumbling, cartwheel, handstand)
    "Wear a bikini" is now "Wear a miniskirt".
    "Wear a mumu" is now "Wear a long, floaty skirt, with a flower in my hair"
    "Wear an ironic T-shirt" is now "Wear an ironic slogan".
    "Go to the movies" is now "Get a cute-guy date for the movies".
    "Go to bars" is now "Dress blatantly sexy and flirt with a guy".
    "Fly in an airplane" is now "Ride on a carnival ride".
    "Jump in an elevator" is now "Walk in circles with eyes closed while elevator is moving". Ever tried it? It's fun.

    All the other stuff I've already done. Often still do on a daily basis. Great list, though! It's good to push back against the boundaries other people want us to limit ourselves inside.

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  30. This list is both ridiculously awful (because do people really say these things??) and fantastic (because yay for you for doing them after some weirdos said you shouldn't.)

    BUT.... I would just like to say, DON'T JUMP IN AN ELEVATOR! My friend and I broke one once, no joke. And neither of us is fat, and we didn't even land at the same time. We were stuck for an hour and a half until they could get us out, and it was really, really hot in there. "Don't jump in an elevator" should be on the list "Things nobody should do, ever. Especially if you're claustrophobic. (And if you're not already claustrophobic, you might be after getting stuck in an elevator.)"

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  31. Totally rolled down the hill the other day while playing outside with my classroom. It was a riot! My co-teacher caught it on video. We plan to do this again till we have to move to our new building. :)
    PS: thanks for being awesome!

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  32. wear a glitter shirt {http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/erin654/IMG-20130512-00125_zpsf6b32207.jpg}

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  33. Wow, I was reading this list to my husband for we are both fat. He was like, Hell Ash you do half that stuff already lol. And yes I have a glitter shirt, shimmy, drive, plane ride, and live. Power to the fat and the skinny, let people live how they want who cares!

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  34. I was over at Dances with Fat and found another one that sounds like tons of fun, if you'd like to expand the list! Manicures! Manicures for all!

    http://danceswithfat.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/no-mani-for-you-fatty/

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  35. I know the original post is ages old but can I still join in?!

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  36. Dance? Run? Drive? LIVE??? What the hell, people... God forbid we start drawing a line somewhere... Does "fat" meant a size 14? A size 16? A size 9?? Or hell, how about a size 6..??? How would someone who'd supported that hatefulness feel if their MOTHER, or SISTER, or FATHER were on that list??? Or hell, how about themselves??? *sighs* Disgusting.

    Well I have TWO endeavors in the works right now that y'all are welcome to come take part in, that go directly against a few of these. (And you can bet I'll be sharing this list w/others amongst them!) First off, I have a body-positive and ability-positive BELLYDANCE blog that encourages people of ALL sizes, abilities, ages & dis/abilities to dance, to shimmy, and to --live.-- ^_^ (http://bigtimebellydance.tumblr.com)

    Plus, I have a little thing in the works called the Plus Size Pride Project, which is all about showing the world that women size 16+ CAN be happy with their bodies, their lives, and that life IS worth living and loving and enjoying, no matter WHAT size you are.
    It starts off w/folks taking body & life positive selfies, which I'll then put together into a collage (both video & 2D), that will aim to inspire -everyone.- ^_^
    http://alternate-visions.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-plus-size-pride-project.html

    Plus, I belong to a few big, beautiful bellydancer forums online, (FB and Yahoo), and I think other ladies in -those- groups might have something to say about this no dancing, no shimmying edict. ;)) So you can bet you'll be getting a few thumbnails from me, AND from the women I'm lucky enough to be surrounded by. (And a few men, too! :D)

    Time to show these hateful (doubtless self-hating, too), ignoramuses that we big folks can do ALLLLL these things, and so much more! ^_^

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  37. I've done ALL of these things & more that I'm sure I "shouldn't" but I can't teach my daughter to love herself if I don't love MYself! She's beautiful & a skinny minnie at this point (she's 4). But I always tell her she's beautiful because she's sweet & kind, not because of how she looks. And her daddy tells her the same. Can't help people telling me in public that she looks like a china doll...but she's easily distracted at this point. Keep up your blog...I wish something like this had been around when I was a teenager! I could have used it!

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  38. #1 Thing that Dumbasses shouldn't do: Make judgmental lists about other people.

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  39. I wanted to submit "ride a scooter" pic (technically an e-bike) but I wasn't sure how. Here is the link to my photobucket: [URL=http://s199.photobucket.com/user/chicky82/media/GEDC0062_zps73ed14ef.jpg.html][IMG]http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/chicky82/GEDC0062_zps73ed14ef.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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  40. .....This list isnt needed, this list isnt benefiticiant to anyone. The last thing on this list makes a giagantic impact on peoples self esteem

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  41. You are awesome. I love myself and I love this blog. I'm chubby and I certainly do not give a shit. This is me and I am beautiful and no one can tell me . :) Thank you Jes for this blog <3

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  42. This is an amazing list! Fat, skinny, average. All women are strong, beautiful, and capable of all great things! So shimmy your heart out. Wear the sexiest bikini or skin tight black dress that you can find. And most of all love your body!!!

    Lynsey - Eternally WanderLyn
    www.wanderlyn.com
    http://www.wanderlyn.com/real-women-have-curves/

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  43. My kid has been riding with me on my scooter for the last 5 years... and I LOVE IT! :)

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  44. My son has been riding with me on my scooter for the last five years, and I LOVE IT!!! :)

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  45. Wear an ironic t-shirt: if only I had known. I have to change my whole damned wardrobe now.

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  46. ME ENCANTA! you are awesome! (Ana, From Spain)

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  47. They should add, wear anything above the knee. The articles I've read about "Plus Sized Fashion" all want us to bundle up and hide. No thank you! I love my short dresses and my fun poofy shirts and tunics!

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  48. Heyy! Lovely blog :)
    Follow each other??
    the-glamorous-diva.blogspot.in

    And girl!! you are inspiring..
    Please stay in touch!!

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  49. Hi Jes, I just found your blog and I love it!! Do you mind if I copy this list for facebook and my friends and I join in? Thanks! Oh, I done quite a few of these as well!

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  50. This is amazing. I'm a teenage girl and that alone is tough. I've gone through depressio, cutting, anorexia, an anxiety disorder, OCD, and I even tried to kill myself. I have such a low self-esteem that it's hard for me to go out in public some days. My therapist showed me this blog, and the first time I got on I cried. Jes is such a perfect person. I don't see through society's eyes when talking about perfection. She's comfortable in her body and she wants to help people suffering like I am. This blog helps me a lot, just by making me laugh on my bad days. I just wanted to say thanks

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  51. To be honest - I'm surprised getting married isn't on the list....

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  52. To be honest I'm surprised getting married isn't on the list. But to hell with them. I went and got my motorbike license...and while I feel like a performing monkey on those tiny tricycles...it ain't gonna stop me from doing it over and over again :)

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  53. Just found this but to add to the list... own one or even be around horses. Didn't even knew this idea was out there until I realized my dream of having a horse.

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  54. I notice you've yet to cross off "roll down a hill". Might I suggest the hill at Himmel Park in Tucson? It's a great hill for rolling!

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  55. BULLSHIT!!! I rode a scooter as my primary form of transportation for like 2 years!!!! I was even in a scooter club! It was KICKASS AWESOME!!!!!
    Seriously, I think that EVERYONE should ride a scooter!!!!!

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  56. Awesome! Wish you were around 15 years ago. Now that I'm a granny I'm not afraid to do any of these things...except the scooter. Just wish I hadn't wasted so much time worrying about what other people think. Life is way too short. Enjoy it all!!!!

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  57. Scooter? Hell, I *own* a motorcycle. And a racecar -- best purchase ever!

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  58. I love this list! I found it through a different blog and every time I am out thrifting (which is all the time) I specifically look for a snazzy mumu! Surprisingly ones I find don't fit my hips always tiny "house coats" pish posh!

    I am starting to gather things for my own personal blog and was writing about pencil skirts(it should be on this list). I wore a pencil skirt with a shirt tucked in and was contemplating taking the shirt out when it just clicked, SCREW IT! my belly is there whether tucked in or not, it looks cuter with the fashion belt, keep it tucked in.

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  59. I really do love this, and I agree! Who is the world to say what we can and can not do! <3

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  60. Sharing this a few places. I've done mos of the things on this list, who knew I wasn't supposed to do them lol.

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  61. I'm a 37 year old woman who weighs 233 pounds I date a man who is 24 and 165 pounds he will chase me in public to tickle me he prefers I wear mini skirts and tank tops we ride motorcycles together I ride horses everything on that list is horrific that people would even contemplate telling BBP ( big beautiful people) that they can't do something because they are bigger than fashion magazines think we should be just this summer I laid in a two piece on my front lawn while traffic drove by me all day long and I got honked at every other minute 2 guys almost ran into my ditch looking at me there is no wrong way to look no wrong size to be we are all created the same we all bleed red we all have same thing I'm just glad that I found this article thank you

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